Based on my last post, a friend of mine pointed out this Washington Post article by Rebel Dad comparing Mommy and Daddy bloggers where he asks, ‘do Dads whine less than Moms?’
Rebel Dad prudently offers the conclusion that Dads, though more and more active in the rearing of children and in many cases taking over roles as primary homemakers, just haven’t “earn[ed] our stripes yet.” He ponders that Dads don’t get to whine as much because the gulf between the responsibilities of Mothers and Fathers in raising a child is too wide for the discourses to be the same.
Well, yes. But there’s a lot more.
Somehow, gender equality went down the road of ‘proving’ the sameness of one sex to another: I can do what you can do, therefore, we are equal. So the ‘rights’ of women were earned by women adopting masculine behaviors to prove workplace equality. (Consider the well-known statement made by Gloria Steinem: “Some of us are becoming the men we wanted to marry.”)  To be successful, women have adopted a model of education and work life that mirrors the single man. Activities associated with being a woman (marriage, babies, mothering) are seen as weak and inconsistent with professional behavior. No one will take you seriously if you have a baby during your PhD because a man wouldn’t (physically) have a baby while doing a PhD.
It’s not just a bum deal for women; strict gendered roles are insulting to both sexes.
Here’s the thing: women and men are NOT the same. One sex bears children and the other one doesn’t. That biological difference needs to be taken into account for both to be equal.
Rebel Dad is 100% correct when he says that Dads don’t ‘whine’ as much as Mothers. Because they can’t. That discourse is feminine, reflective of the assumed responsibility of Mothers as parents. Consider: a woman is shopping with a small child who is not behaving well, crying, fussing, whining… standard stuff. People judge her parenting, blame her for not disciplining the child (even if she is trying to handle the situation) and may even make overall judgments about whether or not she is ‘working.’ If the same situation were playing out with a man, the response would be more empathetic; Dad has his hands full and doesn’t know what to do. Both are patronizing, but associated with very different cultural responses reflecting very different gendered assumptions.
We Moms bitch more about parenting because when the chips fall down, the world looks to us to pick up the pieces. Men can walk away, shrug shoulders in confusion, and just feign ignorance. Women don’t have those options — or face harsh criticism when we do. Coming to terms with being both a Mother and still be respected (as those hip, childless people we used to be) is a big part of Mommy blogging. ‘Whining’ is one way to work it out. Would Dads regain that same pre-fatherhood hipness if they whined in the same way?  No. They work out their own parenting and gender conflicts in different discourse.
Moms are doing all we can, I think, to show that being a Mom IS hip and that the workplace, the academy, and society in general needs to accommodate our awesomeness. All three are very slow in this acceptance, so pardon us if we feel the need to air grievances.
Just one more important point. I remain deeply bothered about the initial questioning regarding ‘whining.’ Because asking whether Moms whine more than Dads is simply a thinly veiled open door for people to bitch about Moms. AGAIN. ‘Cause seriously, lady, you complain when you work and you complain when you stay at home. Look, see? Us men can handle either situation, and with less bitching! So why don’t you just figure it out already?’
And that is the real whining we’ve all heard enough of.
chrissieroux | 16-Jan-09 at 6:39 pm | Permalink
God, this is the best post by anyone, about anything, that I have read in a LONG time. Thank you for this! It hits home with me in so many ways.
alejna | 16-Jan-09 at 8:04 pm | Permalink
I really appreciated reading this today. I’m feeling overloaded once again. I haven’t even had the time or energy to whine about it all on my blog.
Randy | 17-Jan-09 at 9:07 am | Permalink
On the other side of the spectrum dads who pick up the gender neutral titled magazine “Parenting”, are greeted with an article titled “Mad at Dad We love our husbands — so why we do we get so &@!#! angry with them?”. Finding a parenting resource that is not come across as Glamour or Allure for women with babies is next to impossible, there are so only so many time you can read an article where you are excluded from the word our without getting pissed off. There are lots of reasons for moms to be mad at dads, but there are also plenty of reasons for moms to be thankful for their spouses. Not to mention reasons for dads to be glad and/or mad.
Katherine does a lot of things for the house and baby that I do not, but as long as the baby industrial complex caters almost exclusively to mothers society seems to be telling me my role is to go out every night and leave the baby duties to mom. It also diminishes the role of the dads like me that have slowed their careers, and put dinner on the table every night to make life with a baby work.
Lucy | 17-Jan-09 at 6:08 pm | Permalink
Nicely put. I always say I am coming back as a man in my next life (ha! ha!)
Randy,
It is great you are making time for your family, I too am blessed with a great husband who has managed to provide very well for his family and be a part of his children’s lives (who are now pretty much grown) but he always says “he would not trade his ‘job’ for mine any day.” My husband has always said, “You are on 24/7 and I’m glad I go to the office everyday because I would die staying home.” It is great to have a husband that understands!
Stacy Owings | 18-Jan-09 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
Love this post Holly! The pregnant women in grad school get looked at like freaks. I mean, so many of the women in law school with me were so freaked out that they wouldn’t talk to me or get near me…apparently some really intelligent women out there think pregnancy is contagious. Interestingly, most of the men were ok…except for the guy who told me that when he gets married and has children, his wife will stay home with the kids. I was about to pop at that point, and too slow to smack him before he left the room. This guy didn’t even have a girlfriend, but I guess he had big plans.
pistolette | 18-Jan-09 at 4:46 pm | Permalink
That was an awesome post. I’m working out a lot of issues with this. The reason I stopped making “mommy” posts is because my friends mocked me – saying it was always sad to watch a former academic and professional “lose” herself to motherhood. Lately I’ve been really thinking, well, f*ck them, I’m gonna write what I want. But for now I’m too tired to reflect on anything I’m doing. Luckily my husband thinks I’m a goddess for freelancing with a 10 month-old while pregnant – so that always makes me smile when my “friends” have me down 😉
Holly | 18-Jan-09 at 7:02 pm | Permalink
Thanks, everyone, for the comments.
Randy: I think you absolutely nailed the “Dad discourse” — it’s about fighting for recognition of the role Father’s play in childrearing. As I said above, you can’t limit one gender and not have an equal limitation to the other. Culturally, parenting is in no way gender-neutral — and the magazine knows it and plays into those strict binary roles. It creates a tension, asks us to be petty (consider again the post’s response to the initial question of ‘whining’), and builds a readership on those things. We used to tell students to “sex the test” to see if a gender dynamic was being played out in something. From your Parenting Magazine example, change the sexes and/or genders of the titles of the articles. If it doesn’t work in the same way, they are playing off a gender dynamic. Granted, there are ‘informational’ articles about things like immunization and breastfeeding — but they are virtually always extremely bias to cultural imperatives and rarely fully representative of science. (In the interest of full disclosure, I find Parenting Magazine to be terrible.)
I think you are exactly right that the contributions of Fathers struggling to work and be there for their kids is not well recognized. And that there is some sort of idea that you’re suppose to work 12 hour days 6 days a week and not see your kids grow up; that this is a sacrifice of a good father. That should not be the case. Our workplace is not designed for women OR men — and it belittles BOTH of our roles as parents. Parenting should, in no way, impact anyone’s career. And the contributions of parents should be recognized equally for what they are, no matter how the household is structured to support itself. Instead, we play out these ridiculous roles and feel guilt, conflict, exclusion, or isolation when we work outside of those constraints.
kitty | 19-Jan-09 at 3:18 am | Permalink
Ah, my husband whines a hella lot more than I. He just doesn’t have a blog.
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